This week’s Serial Dynasty featured an interview with Ann Brocklehurst, a self-described journalist, private investigator and feminist. She agreed to come on the show and have a “debate” with Bob – she believes Adnan is guilty, while Bob believes Adnan is innocent.
I’m going to say this right now – I believe that Adnan is innocent. I believe this based on the evidence I’ve heard on three different podcasts. This is not my personal belief or personal feeling, this is based on evidence.
Below are Ann’s 12 reasons why she is sure, beyond sure, that Adnan is guilty. I will applaud Bob for his decorum and professionalism during this interview. I actually gave up about an hour in because Ann was pissing me off with her personal views, which were not based on any evidence. I decided to go back and finish the interview. Ann’s points are in italics below. The rest are my thoughts. I will also note that for a journalist, there are a LOT of spelling mistakes below, which I am not correcting. Just saying….
- Adnan has no explanation whatsoever as to how he landed in this position. Yes, I know Deirdre Enright said innocent people often can’t help their case. But she was talking about not being able to find a body in a field as opposed to having no idea whatsoever why your buddy Jay might want to frame you for murder. People who work with killers will also tell you that this vaguey-vague “someone must have framed me but I don’t know why” explanation is a pretty common one among the guilty.
- I’m sorry, how does this prove Adnan is guilty? He has no idea how he landed in this position because he is INNOCENT and didn’t kill Hae. I find this entire statement asinine and not based on any evidence. Saying that him not knowing how he got in this position makes him guilty is just plain stupid.
- Jay has no reason for framing Adnan nor does anyone else let alone Roy Sharonnie Davis or Ronald Lee Moore, who, between the two of them, probably have the combined IQ of a cactus plant.
- Jay has good reason to frame Adnan – his grandmother’s house was being used to make drugs, and many people in his family were part of this drug business. Framing Adnan took the heat of off Jay and kept the cops away from Granny’s house. Roy Davis killed a Woodlawn student not long before Hae was killed. It’s certainly possible that it was him or Ronald Lee Moore. But we don’t know. Why? Because the corrupt cops working this case never processed ANY DNA evidence.
- Adnan should remember what happened on that very un-normal day. He was called by police the same day his ex-girlfriend disappeared. He was interviewed by police two weeks later. The whole “I can’t remember that normal day six weeks ago” schtick is total BS. And Koenig was a sucker for believing it. There is no good explanation for why Adnan has no alibi. He was aware the day Hae went missing something was seriously wrong.
- Let’s be clear about something – Adnan found out Hae was missing in the evening, after 6 pm. Missing. Adnan had no idea where Hae was. As far as he knew, she could have run off with her NEW boyfriend, Don. I don’t find that incriminating. Ann pointed out several times during the interview that her memory was “fuzzy”. Why is ok for Ann to be fuzzy about past events but not Adnan? And let’s not forget the fact that Adnan was high that day. Several people have indicated that he and Jay were smoking pot. And he was a teenage boy. Have you met one of them, Ann? I tell my 16 year old son something and he forgets five minutes later. Adnan had moved on from Hae – he was with Nisha. Of course that day was not significant for him.
- Adnan has consistently lied about how people reacted to Hae’s disppearance, claiming it was no big deal, which is completely implausible. Hae had a new a boyfriend, a class trip to France booked, and university to look forward to. There was no way she’d take off to California in the middle of her senior year.
- This is simply not true, and I’d love the see the evidence to back this claim up. As soon as Friday, January 15, Adnan became concerned when Hae did not show up to a party. Ann forgets that the Woodlawn students were out of school the rest of that week, so Adnan would really have no way to know anything about Hae’s disappearance. In all the episodes of Serial, Undisclosed, and Serial Dynasty I’ve listened to, I’ve never heard anyone make this claim. Which leads me to believe this is Ann’s thought. Which means nothing.
- Adnan’s good friend Imran appears to have been actively trying to discourage Hae’s California friends from looking for her a week after her disappearance, when, according to Adnan, no one was concerned she was gone.
- In my opinion, Bob obliterated Ann on this one, proving that she was talking about a different Imran. She stuttered with her response, after a LONG pause. Not sure what this has to do with Adnan anyway. What difference does it make what Imran’s doing to Adnan? Another senseless, Ann based point.
- Adnan had no reason for lending Jay his car. The idea that he was concerned about Jay getting a birthday present for Stephanie is laughable.
- Hey Ann, did you miss the many times it was mentioned Jay DID NOT OWN A CAR??????? Of course it would make sense for Adnan to loan Jay his car to buy a gift for Adnan’s very good friend Stephanie. In fact, several people pointed out that Adnan had lent Jay his car on a few occasions. So because you’ve decided Jay had no reason to borrow the car makes Adnan guilty? Please.
- Adnan lied about asking Hae for a ride, contradicting the testimony of Krista and Debbie.
- Nope, another lie on Ann’s part, and another point she was hit by Bob. Several people testified that they heard Adnan ask for a ride and they heard Hae say no, that she had something to do. Read the documents on Undisclosed.
- Adnan wrote “I’m going to kill” on a break-up note from Hae telling him to back off. (If you think that’s no biggie, let me know how you feel about it when you see your daughters writing a note like that and then discover the recipient’s decorated it with “I’m going to kill.”)
- While I will admit it was a stupid thing to write, this really doesn’t prove anything. It’s been talked about on Undisclosed and I feel it was put to rest.
- Adnan exhibited other stalkery behaviour towards Hae. She hid from him at school and wrote in her diary that he was possessive.
- Ann mentioned the fact that the French teacher was told Hae was not coming to a lab because she was hiding from Adnan, because they’d had a fight. Pretty much everyone else disputes what Ann says here – that Adnan was not a stalker or possessive of Hae. To me, this is typical teenage girl drama. And it sounds like Hae was close to this teacher.
- Adnan never tried to contact Hae after January 13th even though he called her three times the night before.
- Um, Ann, NEITHER DID DON, her current boyfriend. Adnan called Hae the night before, yes, but only spoke to her once, to give her his new cell number. I find it more odd that Don never reached out to her than Adnan. And again, they were not in school for almost a week after Hae’s disappearance due to weather/end of semester. I’ll concede it’s weird he never called her.
- There is no explanation for the Nisha call other than an improbable butt dial.
- In my opinion, it’s been proven on Undisclosed that the Nisha call could not have been placed by Adnan, based on the time of the come and get me call. I believe that Jay called Nisha by mistake on Adnan’s cell phone, which Jay had in his possession the entire day.
- Adnan’s cell phone records place him in Leakin Park burying Hae’s body.
- Nope, they do not. Undisclosed got documentation from AT&T that incoming calls cannot be used to determine location. And the lividity evidence proves that there is NO WAY Hae could have been buried at 7pm.
In conclusion, nothing Ann notes is enough to prove guilt. She stated that she believes Jay. That’s the first clue. Jay lied repeatedly throughout this case, and at the end of the interview, Ann said “Oh Jay, why can’t you just get your story straight?” This is someone we’re supposed to believe? I was also appalled when Ann stated that Sarah Koenig has Hae’s pager records. Where is she getting this information from? Nobody has Hae’s pager records. I never heard Sarah or anyone else say this. Just lies.
I believe that Bob won the debate and did a fantastic job of disproving pretty much everything Ann said. Good job, Bob.